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		<title>Comment on JCR + Bar Refurbishment by Lewis</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/2009/11/23/jcr-refurbishment/comment-page-1/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the architect is a pretentious hack and the bar is fine how it is.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Events by &#187; Cambodian Society @ Global Gathering SOAS Cambodia Society</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/events/comment-page-1/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Cambodian Society @ Global Gathering SOAS Cambodia Society</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] below and I will hope to see you all there!   All proceeds go towards the Haita Relief Effort. http://soasunion.org/events/  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] below and I will hope to see you all there!   All proceeds go towards the Haita Relief Effort. <a href="http://soasunion.org/events/ " rel="nofollow">http://soasunion.org/events/ </a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on JCR + Bar Refurbishment by change is not always progress...</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/2009/11/23/jcr-refurbishment/comment-page-1/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>change is not always progress...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great to have the opportunity to provide some feedback on bar refurbishment. As much as I love the bar as it is now, I do understand the need for practical changes - more space is good, and the bar area itself is impractical for the staff (likewise the stairs). 

However, I am more than a little disappointed by the plans outlined here. There are plenty of student union bars in the near vicinity. But SOAS offers one of the few dive bars left in london. Sure its grotty, but its character as a old (if worn out) proper bar is irreplaceable. The character it has is as an old school bar, with no pretensions (it doesnt feel like a pub or a shiny new bar - it fills a gap in the market that doesnt exist elsewhere). I agree with the need for refurbishment, but am concerned that the style and character will change irreversibly. For example, the SOAS bar is in a basement and should remain somewhat dark and dingy (in mood - certainly cleaner is better!). 

I guess the people who say they wouldnt bring their friends there miss the point - its one the first places I&#039;d bring friends visiting london! My main design objection is to the design of the bar itself - the wooden roof and the metal bars on the front are just too typical of a soulless refurbishment! Why does it need to be over-designed? A lot of people  would prefer something simple and traditional. And in terms of overall design can I appeal, as others did above, for quality - no laminate and veneer please &amp; no plate glass. If we want a compromise then by all means make the JCR upstairs bright, airy, open and colourful - a nice place to imagine you are having a coffee in a shopping mall or something! But please do not ruin the place which is the soul of soas! real wooden tables, exposed brick, etc would be much more fitting. Basically - if the jukebox will look out of place, then it will have failed! 80s New York, 90s berlin - just anything with some character and some quirk to it! 

My final quibble, (if this is the place to share it) is about TVs. I love TVs, I love football on TVs, and I&#039;d love for a facility at soas to watch sport. BUT - the soas bar is not and should not be that place! Put a projector in the JCR or put a partition between the bar and where the shop is now to make a tv area, but please do not kill the unique atmosphere that the SOAS bar has by putting tvs in there!

A long rant perhaps, but I hope those designing the refurb take some of this on board. I know a lot of other people who agree with me on this. 

Lets hope that if the character of the bar is to change over time, it is because of the people, and not some seismic change because of an ill-thought-out redesign!

one cant please all of the people all of time, but you should be aware that the people most attached to the bar are the ones who like it as it is! Be careful please. Change is inevitable, but lets hope it is managed sympathetically!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to have the opportunity to provide some feedback on bar refurbishment. As much as I love the bar as it is now, I do understand the need for practical changes &#8211; more space is good, and the bar area itself is impractical for the staff (likewise the stairs). </p>
<p>However, I am more than a little disappointed by the plans outlined here. There are plenty of student union bars in the near vicinity. But SOAS offers one of the few dive bars left in london. Sure its grotty, but its character as a old (if worn out) proper bar is irreplaceable. The character it has is as an old school bar, with no pretensions (it doesnt feel like a pub or a shiny new bar &#8211; it fills a gap in the market that doesnt exist elsewhere). I agree with the need for refurbishment, but am concerned that the style and character will change irreversibly. For example, the SOAS bar is in a basement and should remain somewhat dark and dingy (in mood &#8211; certainly cleaner is better!). </p>
<p>I guess the people who say they wouldnt bring their friends there miss the point &#8211; its one the first places I&#8217;d bring friends visiting london! My main design objection is to the design of the bar itself &#8211; the wooden roof and the metal bars on the front are just too typical of a soulless refurbishment! Why does it need to be over-designed? A lot of people  would prefer something simple and traditional. And in terms of overall design can I appeal, as others did above, for quality &#8211; no laminate and veneer please &amp; no plate glass. If we want a compromise then by all means make the JCR upstairs bright, airy, open and colourful &#8211; a nice place to imagine you are having a coffee in a shopping mall or something! But please do not ruin the place which is the soul of soas! real wooden tables, exposed brick, etc would be much more fitting. Basically &#8211; if the jukebox will look out of place, then it will have failed! 80s New York, 90s berlin &#8211; just anything with some character and some quirk to it! </p>
<p>My final quibble, (if this is the place to share it) is about TVs. I love TVs, I love football on TVs, and I&#8217;d love for a facility at soas to watch sport. BUT &#8211; the soas bar is not and should not be that place! Put a projector in the JCR or put a partition between the bar and where the shop is now to make a tv area, but please do not kill the unique atmosphere that the SOAS bar has by putting tvs in there!</p>
<p>A long rant perhaps, but I hope those designing the refurb take some of this on board. I know a lot of other people who agree with me on this. </p>
<p>Lets hope that if the character of the bar is to change over time, it is because of the people, and not some seismic change because of an ill-thought-out redesign!</p>
<p>one cant please all of the people all of time, but you should be aware that the people most attached to the bar are the ones who like it as it is! Be careful please. Change is inevitable, but lets hope it is managed sympathetically!</p>
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		<title>Comment on JCR + Bar Refurbishment by Alec</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/2009/11/23/jcr-refurbishment/comment-page-1/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we have the door to the outside enclosed in some way or off to the side? In the winter when it&#039;s so cold outside it&#039;s horrible with the door consistently opening and closing as smokers come in and out, and the draughts of cold wind coming in. If we&#039;re thinking about an eco JCR and keeping down heating costs/energy, stopping these cold draughts will help enormously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we have the door to the outside enclosed in some way or off to the side? In the winter when it&#8217;s so cold outside it&#8217;s horrible with the door consistently opening and closing as smokers come in and out, and the draughts of cold wind coming in. If we&#8217;re thinking about an eco JCR and keeping down heating costs/energy, stopping these cold draughts will help enormously.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Peter Hyde (SOAS 1960-64)</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/about/comment-page-1/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hyde (SOAS 1960-64)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Becoming overtly political before many other Student Union’s&quot;
(Quoted from Our Story)
This obvously refers to the period after 1964.  At that time a resolution was in force prohibiting the display in the JCR of any notices of a political nature. Perhaps that Resolution is still in force, just forgotten!
Check the Union records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Becoming overtly political before many other Student Union’s&#8221;<br />
(Quoted from Our Story)<br />
This obvously refers to the period after 1964.  At that time a resolution was in force prohibiting the display in the JCR of any notices of a political nature. Perhaps that Resolution is still in force, just forgotten!<br />
Check the Union records.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Peter Hyde (SOAS 1960-64)</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/about/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hyde (SOAS 1960-64)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the page Our Story I see, referring to the late 50s - early 60s &quot;Indeed the very Elvis record which was first played in SOAS is proudly still in the jukebox in the bar today. The jukebox quite possible dates back from this period too&quot;.  The only source of music in the JCR at this time was an enormous radiogram which was very rarely used.  Conversation was the principal entertainment, and interruption in the shape of music was not appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the page Our Story I see, referring to the late 50s &#8211; early 60s &#8220;Indeed the very Elvis record which was first played in SOAS is proudly still in the jukebox in the bar today. The jukebox quite possible dates back from this period too&#8221;.  The only source of music in the JCR at this time was an enormous radiogram which was very rarely used.  Conversation was the principal entertainment, and interruption in the shape of music was not appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Peter Hyde (SOAS 1960-64)</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/about/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hyde (SOAS 1960-64)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever is responsible for proofreading the site needs a little spelling improvement.  At a cursory glance I noticed &quot;santcions&quot; and &quot;permenent&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever is responsible for proofreading the site needs a little spelling improvement.  At a cursory glance I noticed &#8220;santcions&#8221; and &#8220;permenent&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Case for Santcions and Boycott &#8211; Palestine Society by Mark</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/2009/12/04/the-case-for-santcions-and-boycott-palestine-society/comment-page-1/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The truth is that an independent Palestine is now quietly being built, with Israeli assistance.&quot;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/dec/07/obama-interference-independent-palestine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The truth is that an independent Palestine is now quietly being built, with Israeli assistance.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/dec/07/obama-interference-independent-palestine" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/dec/07/obama-interference-independent-palestine</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on JCR + Bar Refurbishment by Mark. The architect.</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/2009/11/23/jcr-refurbishment/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark. The architect.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once more I am going to break from my intention of commenting in chronological order and deal with something that has simply niggled me, just to get it out of my system. Sophie [27/11/2009 at 1:36am], you are cause of my angst; you and Tanizaki.

When I first read &#039;In Praise of Shadows&#039; I considered Tanizaki to be overly simplistic, contradictory, probably xenophobic and certainly nationalistic in his justification of an &#039;aesthetic&#039; with such disjointed cultural evidence. I still do, and I can only assume that his literary reputation rode before him at the time. 

I have no problem with suffused light and contemplative spaces, but Tanaki is a poor proponent of such. Louis Khan&#039;s &#039;In the Realm of Architecture&#039;, or &#039;The Secret of the Shadow&#039; by Ingeborg Flagge and others, both offer very balanced discussion on the subject.

You ask me to think &#039;In Praise of Shadows&#039; - I do not know which translation you have of the book (if indeed it is a translation), but mine is the Thomas Harper version. I quote directly from Harper&#039;s Afterword:

&#039;Mrs Tanizaki tells a story of when her late husband decided, as he frequently did, to build a new house. The architect arrived and announced with pride, &quot;I&#039;ve read your In Praise of Shadows, Mr Tanizaki, and know exactly what you want.&quot; To which Mr Tanizaki replied, &quot;But no, I could never live in a house like that.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once more I am going to break from my intention of commenting in chronological order and deal with something that has simply niggled me, just to get it out of my system. Sophie [27/11/2009 at 1:36am], you are cause of my angst; you and Tanizaki.</p>
<p>When I first read &#8216;In Praise of Shadows&#8217; I considered Tanizaki to be overly simplistic, contradictory, probably xenophobic and certainly nationalistic in his justification of an &#8216;aesthetic&#8217; with such disjointed cultural evidence. I still do, and I can only assume that his literary reputation rode before him at the time. </p>
<p>I have no problem with suffused light and contemplative spaces, but Tanaki is a poor proponent of such. Louis Khan&#8217;s &#8216;In the Realm of Architecture&#8217;, or &#8216;The Secret of the Shadow&#8217; by Ingeborg Flagge and others, both offer very balanced discussion on the subject.</p>
<p>You ask me to think &#8216;In Praise of Shadows&#8217; &#8211; I do not know which translation you have of the book (if indeed it is a translation), but mine is the Thomas Harper version. I quote directly from Harper&#8217;s Afterword:</p>
<p>&#8216;Mrs Tanizaki tells a story of when her late husband decided, as he frequently did, to build a new house. The architect arrived and announced with pride, &#8220;I&#8217;ve read your In Praise of Shadows, Mr Tanizaki, and know exactly what you want.&#8221; To which Mr Tanizaki replied, &#8220;But no, I could never live in a house like that.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Union General Meeting – 20.11.2009 by Iman Sari</title>
		<link>http://soasunion.org/2009/11/25/union-general-meeting-%e2%80%93-20-11-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Iman Sari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we supporting anti-semites like George Galloway who actively give money to Islamofascist organisations such as Hamas, who destroy the rights of women and gays in Palestine? Should we really be supporting the exploitation of the Palestinian people&#039;s suffering as an Islamist-driven-human-battering-ram against Israel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we supporting anti-semites like George Galloway who actively give money to Islamofascist organisations such as Hamas, who destroy the rights of women and gays in Palestine? Should we really be supporting the exploitation of the Palestinian people&#8217;s suffering as an Islamist-driven-human-battering-ram against Israel?</p>
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